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• Question by: John Biggs
• Meeting date: 19 July 2006

I think this is a fantastically important matter, and I suppose the problem I have with Dee Doocey's question is that it's very easy to try to put a number on this and say that £4 billion will solve the problem. I think we all know that out there there's a scepticism in the wider public that we are spending more on public services. I'd like more to be spent on my constituency in East London. People are asking whether we are getting sufficient value out of it, whether our services are sufficiently functional and so on, so clearly, there...

• Question by: Dee Doocey
• Meeting date: 19 July 2006

I would be interested in the panel's view of the findings of the Joseph Rowntree Trust that said that £4-5 billion per annum is going to be needed from the Government in order to reach the targets. That just seems such an extraordinarily large figure, I would be interested to know how the panel felt about that.

• Question by: Dee Doocey
• Meeting date: 19 July 2006

So, are you saying that you don't think that much money is needed?

• Question by: John Biggs
• Meeting date: 19 July 2006

I would like to take a slightly less negative approach than the UK Independence Party (UKIP) on this issue. The ability of EU funds to transform other areas of Europe where there is experience of poverty has been quite significant, and, given that there are areas of considerable poverty within London, and you may not be able to answer this, but can you think of examples of good practice elsewhere and has, for example, the Child Poverty Action Group, looked at examples of good practice in other European states which could be echoed and mirrored and copied and stolen to...