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• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 10 November 2007

I am not asking you to comment on the planning application; it is more about the commercial engagement with London City Airport. Are you aware that London City Airport provides no cost towards the security of its perimeters and, in a sense, that we and part of the GLA family are subsidising them? Before you enter into commercial agreements with London City Airport or give any undertaking that security, the primacy of security around our airports and users of airports comes first and therefore that they should not be subsidised by London taxpayers, they should make a contribution like other...

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

Where do those decisions take place or discussions take place so we can get to understand that, because we want the short-term to work well, actually the run-up to the Games, the delivery of the Games and then what arises out of the Games, you are going to be responsible for that bit. Right. OK. So where do the discussions take them and how do you use your influencing role to secure that long-term vision? The problem I have is, I think you are right about the ODA having some responsibility for it, or LOCOG in some ways has its...

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

And will that come with the other partners who have some stake, so we get one definitive view of where we are on legacy or are we going to have Bill and Ben back like we had yesterday, telling us that they are not responsible for it, `not me guv' and it is someone else's? I think we need to know.

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

Right. OK. I am going to give you an example then. The Olympics, in security terms, needs to take a number of decisions to secure a site for the safety of the Olympics in the events that go on. Where is the decision post-Olympics? We have not got a security issue, we have some iconic buildings which I hope are part of the legacy, but we would probably want to open up that site to people in a way of ongoing normalisation in security terms. How do we know who is doing the spec? Decisions are being taken now by...

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

I am running out of time here on the Labour time. Who takes what decisions when, when does the talking stop and say this is the long-term legacy vision that we want and all the rest of it. Where is that? Give me some milestone that we can work towards.

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

Can I thank you for the way you have answered that question? You will be aware we had two people before us yesterday (Lord Coe, Chair of LOCOG and Paul Deighton, Chief Executive of LOCOG) and it could really be summed up when discussing the legacy debate as `not me guv, it is someone else' and then they spoke inordinately long about legacy and what they were doing and who was driving it. The question for me is, who is the ringmaster? You are quite clear. You are quite clear from the bits that you have just said. Let me...

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

OK. Right. Just bear with me. There have been many master plans and things change within that. Are you, at the LDA, the holder of the legacy at different levels, the long-term legacy, and the ODA is the short-term legacy, but obviously has got an eye on the legacy in the future?

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

Let me stop you there. Can I just stop you there? Hold on. Here again, my understanding is they are delivering the physical side, site buildings and you are now telling me that they have also got the responsibility for a legacy overhang? Their priority is to deliver an on-time, on-budget, project. Is there not something wrong about who is holding that legacy brief?

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

Not you?

• Question by: Len Duvall OBE
• Meeting date: 11 October 2006

But you are not thinking in terms of that process. When does it become a fait accompli that you do not have options? What I need to know is where those decisions are being taken and who by? I think that is what we need to know and others do. I suspect my colleagues in local government might like to know that, even though they are involved in those decisions or part of the discussion, I think.